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Thursday, September 30, 2010

Will David Haye fall into the trap that he set?

Ok i know i will be attacked from some British fans here and some accounts of the "party" here but i have some opinions about this man that i need to be vocal about .

I know many people (for obvious reasons) call this man the future or fresh breathe of air etc but i want to share with you what i read here in KO magazine (french edition) that the British or American media for some odd reason (ha) do not mention often!
David Haye from the day he got the title (his manager actually) has get phone calls from all these men for a possible title fight:

Chagaev
Povetkin
Ustinov
Denis Boytsov
Tomasz Adamek
Odlanier Solis

and according to the source David seems to said through his manager :"That David full filled his main dream to become a HW champ and he does not know how long he will stay in the division after his fight with Ruiz"

So the man who would clean up the division seems to taking another path now?He won't kill the Klitschkos (that he already ducked?) He won't take any challenges?

I mean i know it's fine some peeps from the "party" will come and tell me you racist David is a world class fighter he will kill these Bums and stuff and guys it's ok in hot air words i can destroy Eiffel Tower and reconstruct it in 24 hours as well ;) lol

All i am saying is that Boytsov,Povetkin,Chagaev or Klitschkos aint no Monte Barrett , Enzo Maccarinelli , Giacobbe Fragomeni , Lasse Johansen or old rusty Valuev (that Haye never really won) they all world class fighters with glorious amateur and professional past and i dunno how well the chin and power of Haye will do against them!

Haye looks good for obvious reasons for the division but let's be realistic here,the Eastern Euros are very hungry men :)






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Knight, I'm not sure if I understood your question correctly but I will say this - in my opinion, David Haye is the biggest hype job and media creation boxing has had in last 20 years. All that this man ever does is run his trap and doesn't have the skill or talent to back anything up in the ring. The second he faces a prime, real fighter he's going to get exposed badly. His biggest accomplishments thus far were victories over a completely shot Jean Marc Mormeck then Enzo Maccarinelli (we all know how much that one is worth now) and Valuev highway robbery of course. This is what all the hype is about, all that the heavyweight savior has to show for.

These men you spoke of, except for Alexander Ustinov, are all elite heavyweight boxers and all of them would beat Haye, I have no doubt (Solis already did when they fought as amateurs). Ustinov is the only one who would lose. He is too slow, too stiff, square on and still fights like a typical kick boxer and that wouldn't work. There is always a chance that he might land something big, but I think that's very unlikely. If Valuev couldn't knock Haye out, neither would Ustinov. But you replace him with Eddie Chambers and maybe put Chris Arreola in there too and you still have seven heavyweight boxers, outside of the Klitschko brothers, who could kick Haye's @ss at this moment.

On the side note, the good news is that Ruslan Chagaev is about to become Haye's next mandatory challenger. He's supposed to fight Kali Meehan in the eliminator next month. When Chagaev gets through (no disrespect to Meehan, but Ruslan really shouldn't have much problems here) it will be very interesting to see what happens. I'll bet you a million dollars that Haye will find some excuse to punk out of that one too.






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Will David Haye fall into the trap that he set?

Ok i know i will be attacked from some British fans here and some accounts of the "party" here but i have some opinions about this man that i need to be vocal about .

I know many people (for obvious reasons) call this man the future or fresh breathe of air etc but i want to share with you what i read here in KO magazine (french edition) that the British or American media for some odd reason (ha) do not mention often!
David Haye from the day he got the title (his manager actually) has get phone calls from all these men for a possible title fight:

Chagaev
Povetkin
Ustinov
Denis Boytsov
Tomasz Adamek
Odlanier Solis

and according to the source David seems to said through his manager :"That David full filled his main dream to become a HW champ and he does not know how long he will stay in the division after his fight with Ruiz"

So the man who would clean up the division seems to taking another path now?He won't kill the Klitschkos (that he already ducked?) He won't take any challenges?

I mean i know it's fine some peeps from the "party" will come and tell me you racist David is a world class fighter he will kill these Bums and stuff and guys it's ok in hot air words i can destroy Eiffel Tower and reconstruct it in 24 hours as well ;) lol

All i am saying is that Boytsov,Povetkin,Chagaev or Klitschkos aint no Monte Barrett , Enzo Maccarinelli , Giacobbe Fragomeni , Lasse Johansen or old rusty Valuev (that Haye never really won) they all world class fighters with glorious amateur and professional past and i dunno how well the chin and power of Haye will do against them!

Haye looks good for obvious reasons for the division but let's be realistic here,the Eastern Euros are very hungry men :)
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Knight, I'm not sure if I understood your question correctly but I will say this - in my opinion, David Haye is the biggest hype job and media creation boxing has had in last 20 years. All that this man ever does is run his trap and doesn't have the skill or talent to back anything up in the ring. The second he faces a prime, real fighter he's going to get exposed badly. His biggest accomplishments thus far were victories over a completely shot Jean Marc Mormeck then Enzo Maccarinelli (we all know how much that one is worth now) and Valuev highway robbery of course. This is what all the hype is about, all that the heavyweight savior has to show for.

These men you spoke of, except for Alexander Ustinov, are all elite heavyweight boxers and all of them would beat Haye, I have no doubt (Solis already did when they fought as amateurs). Ustinov is the only one who would lose. He is too slow, too stiff, square on and still fights like a typical kick boxer and that wouldn't work. There is always a chance that he might land something big, but I think that's very unlikely. If Valuev couldn't knock Haye out, neither would Ustinov. But you replace him with Eddie Chambers and maybe put Chris Arreola in there too and you still have seven heavyweight boxers, outside of the Klitschko brothers, who could kick Haye's @ss at this moment.

On the side note, the good news is that Ruslan Chagaev is about to become Haye's next mandatory challenger. He's supposed to fight Kali Meehan in the eliminator next month. When Chagaev gets through (no disrespect to Meehan, but Ruslan really shouldn't have much problems here) it will be very interesting to see what happens. I'll bet you a million dollars that Haye will find some excuse to punk out of that one too.
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Great answer man no joke!

As for you Dave, if Haye was not british you would not give a crap so piss off mate like u Ameri................Brits i mean use to say :)

By the way when the same Americans who root for Haye bashing Europe do you care Dave at all?Oh i forgot yall 52nd state of USA lol
Are you really that insecure??

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Yeah this dude is very insecure. He hates black people and wants everyone to hate black people. He feels superior to them because he's an insecure person.

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This is also why he blocks people because he cant handle it when he's confronted with his bullshit. He acts like he's tough but he's not, this is why he blocks people because the baby cant handle adults replies lol. Wow i wouldnt want this person as a lawyer. Cant handle debate at all lol!!

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Ifs and butts. Knight, I'm here to be exposed, mate. Save all my answers regarding Haye if you like. The fact of the matter is that none of these guys have fought Haye (yet) and until they do it's impossible to say with any real conviction that they would beat him. It's almost as if your saying they have already fought and beat him. I've said before, other than Adamek, i don't see any of them guys giving Haye too much trouble, that's my opinion, I'm certain yours is very different.

I would love to see a Haye-Adamek fight at HW, it would be great, and i would also love to see Haye fight Wlad and Vitali. Not saying he would win, but I'm not saying he would lose either, catch my drift? He has to get his mandatory (against Ruiz) out of the way first, only when that is done will we be able to see Haye's intentions more clearly through his choice of opponents. If he goes the easy route he picks the fringe contenders, if he wants the hard route he goes straight for the Klitschkos and Adameks. Until then we can only speculate whether or not Haye is avoiding the toughest challenges at HW.

P.S Wladamir quickly pulled out of his fight with Haye when David picked up a minor back injury, it would have postponed the fight only by a few weeks, a month max. Why couldn't Wlad wait? I thought Wlad was desperate to give Haye a "pizza face"?






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I do believe that Haye has the skills to beat Povetkin, Ustinov, Poytsov, Adamek, and Solis. The only boxer that i think Haye will lose is Ruslan Chagaev. Ruslan is a highly rank heavyweight. Eventhough he struggled against Wladimir, I think he has what it takes to beat Haye who is a rising star.






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One reason he won't probably face them: $.

It doesn't matter if David Haye is an ATG, he talks smack, he's loud, and he brings alot of fans to the HW division because of his British popularity. In recent years, when people think of the HW, they think of one or two people: Muhammad Ali or Mike Tyson, what did those fighters bring to the table, flashy lifestyle and a talent for smack talking. That is what Haye is trying to replicate and what will bring him the most popularity and $.

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